Bharat Ratna

  • :rolleyes:Lal Krishna Advani has asked the Union Govt. and requested that name of Atal Bihari Bajapai should be considered for the title under the Constitution. He had been most uncontroversial person and had been successful Prime Minister also. His contribution to nation cannot be ignored. In fact during his regime India did shine in all respect but the Congress and allied parties had 'purchased the voice of media and media also mortgaged its voice like at the time of Gujarat elections and emitted poison against the BJP.

    It is a known fact that after the Pokharan blast the western countries and Japan banned foreign aid but in spite of that these nations could not stop progress of this nation and India could stand on his on legs. Thanks to Bajpai.

    To counter the request Congress has brought the name of Joyty Basu. There cannot be dispute about him also who ruled W.B. for more than 23 years as C.M. But he had never been a national leader. :rolleyes:

    What Congress must be thinking is this award should go to Sonia Gandhi only. because she belongs to Gandhi Nehru dynasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    Don't make the subject political and don't undervalue the title also. Be fare and the concerned committee should consider the name of Atal ji in right perspective.


  • :rolleyes:Some body started wrong topic on this thread. Sahastrabhuj has rightly replied and hope we will keep our minds open to understand ones reasoning and will not be dogmatic. :rolleyes:


  • :rolleyes:Joyti Basu has said that he is not in run for the Bharat Ratna. Mayavati says that in addition to these late Kanshiram be considered for the same. What is his contribution is absolutely a question of fact. What a nonsense in India. India has become most roughtan country and the media has further spoiled the nation. Be sure of that. No reasonable and logical thinking but every think politically motivated and self centered . :rolleyes:


  • :rolleyes:It is the only language which has every thing in it which ought to have in any language. Thanks to whites that they taught us that language but the so far non secular govt. is concerned it is acting worst that Muslims. :rolleyes:


  • :rolleyes:Good jock!The cabinet will not be able to take decision as to whom such award should be given and the matter will be recommended to the high commend and it will say that the award should go the member of the dynasty!!!!All will agree to it. :rolleyes:


  • I have not read the entire thread frankly but I am concerned about origin of Language etc. comments.
    Raghuvir I know you are stuck with history and its fragments on your mind BUT I do not care nor we should care the languages as languages are merely vehicles for our thoughts that need not be considered foreign or native because the idea of a language is to COMMUNICATE.

    There was a time when Indian languages were decaying and were primitive enough that a rich language like Sanskrit grew. Please learn that a rich civilization who works hard and has a real basis to stand creates the richer languages which are later adapted by humans of all types.

    Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, English and before them thousands of other languages were created to communicate. The process is on continuum hence get out of your history and come to reality.

    I do not care who is a foreigner and what language is foreign or native. IF we can not communicate our selves properly we must throw away that language and create a new one. BUT this does not work as like you there have been many thinkers who were forever discussing and questioning yet languages die and grow because of their usefulness.

    I am saying all above because I was a student of Linguistics for quite some time and have delved into the history of languages as one of my favorite subjects.

    PS: I created a new thread to discuss the issues of Languages of India and the world here:

    http://hindustan.org/forum/showthread.php?p=5262


  • :rolleyes: Look to the article on Bharat Ratna written by my friend shri Suresh Parmar which is published for general readeing by the members. :rolleyes:



    A couple of days ago in this column I accused FP[Free Press] of sacrificing quality by being unduly liberal in publishing articles & letters. At the same time I also admitted that liberality has its good side too, which is that all writers, good & bad, new & old, find a platform to express themselves – which no other newspaper or magazine affords -- so that one gets an opportunity to judge the mental calibre of ‘educated’ or ‘literate’ Indians which otherwise would have remained unknowable. It would seem that FP brought out its January 29 issue with a view to vindicating both of my claims. Speaking of Advani’s “well-meaning suggestion” for awarding Bharat Ratna to A.B.Vajpayee the editor – a rare Indian who would do proud to India anywhere in the world – unwittingly shows his high esteem for Vajpayee in the following words: “A Bharat Ratna can do nothing to add to his stature. His contributions in the service of the nation speak for themselves. A devalued State honour need not be embellished with an avoidable association with his name.” Most wonderful words by any standard!
    Contrast this with a letter on the same subject that FP has published side by side with the abovementioned small editorial. The letter writer writes, “Atalji is the most undeserving candidate for India’s topmost civilian honour. Honestly speaking, only Indira Gandhi deserves it.” Well done and thank you, Mr Godboley, you have provided me with a classic example of my second claim, that FP by its liberality provides an opportunity to judge the mental calibre of ‘educated’ or ‘literate’ Indians which otherwise would have remained unknowable. I shall use this letter of yours to show to the world the mental calibre of the Indians – for example, why they have been voting the most anti-nation & anti-people party to power for the last 61 years. What else can one expect from an electorate who cannot differentiate a wolf from a lamb and still calls oneself literate!
    The Congress carries in its genes the blueprint to ruin India & Indians totally. Nehru was the seed and Indira Gandhi was the flower. The all-round ruin that one finds today in India is her handiwork. Sonia Gandhi & Co. are only seeking to complete the work that she left incomplete. The devilish mindset of Indira Gandhi and her innumerable misdeeds are so well-known that one feels ashamed of being born in the same country as she. In sharp contrast, Vajpayee may be a soft person – but that is because of his innate civility and humanity. For a politician to remain civilized and humane is an incredible feat – especially in India where only crooks and goons and those with a most perverse mindset can become a politician.
    That a so-called ‘literate’ person could not differentiate between a wolf & a lamb is incredible. Then what can one expect of an Indian illiterate? To think that these literates and illiterates have been gifted adult franchise to decide who will rule India! Whom else they can elect but Indiras, Arjuns, Digvijays, Mayawatis, Mulayams, Lalus, Karunanidhis, Jayalalitas, Madhu Kodas, Shibu Sorens, Buddhadebs, Jyoti Basus ad infinitum! The reality of Indian literacy was revealed a few days ago when the answer papers of the last year’s MPSEB merit listers were put on the Internet. 80% of the answers of the top merit lister were wrong! Another merit lister could not spell the word ‘knowledge’ correctly. Such is the state of affairs of the merit listers. That of the passers can easily be imagined. As for the 63% students who give up school before making it to SSC, well, God bless them! Such being the state of affairs of Indian education, it does not require the knowledge of astrology to predict the fate of India.:rolleyes:


  • The remedy to all this, is that we need some strong willed persons among the majority community , who wake up with wide open eyes, with fearless minds, (remember death ha to come one day to us all), people who really love the motherland and think of it's future. Atleast think, that we have to leave behind a strong,prosperous country for their future generations, after we are gone. The immediate remedy is, that we need to develop 'citizens commitees in each & every town, to educate the masses about the value of their votes, which make and unmake a good Govt. Illeracy of major part of Indians is major problem, who don't which way they and their country is going, with the present UPA Govt ( a coalition of so called Nehru/sonia Gandhis and maoists communits, who history shows were opposing Gandhian congress in pre-independence days) We have to educate those masses and tell them that their eacah vote is worth miilion Rupees, votes which will make Good or bad Govt. So let all the masses open their eyes open and use their brains to put out the present smelling ,(which is a bunch of seld seeking polticians, who are enemies of the country) out of power in the coming elections. Jai Hind


  • See Bharat Ratna means the gem of India. We do not have any more real gem stones that are worthy enough to be carved and cut because we have huge chemical laboratories making better gems than the real color gems.

    Likewise we do not have any real gems of people because there are none. We simply have artificially carved ugly Indians unworthy of any award.

    However I do suggest that we should have an award for highest held office with maximum corruption. This will be the best reward for the corrupt bastards that we have leading this nation.


  • Just look at athe mindset of present Sonia Gandhi Govt. which rejected the nomination of 'Atal Behari Bajpaai' for Bharat Ratna' and few other nominees and instead proposed the name of Jyoti Basu (a communist maoist) for the same. Just think of it, that the Nehru sonia congress could not find any one single capable person among it's big name party voluminous party to propose for Bharat Ratna, and had to propose for Jyoti Basu a communist. Well, what all this shows? Don't be surprised about that. Nehru himself was known to be a pro-communist himself and his party is now treading the same line. Well, I won't have wondered( if the noble Sonia gandhi i congress, being uanble to find a single capable person amont it's cadres for the tile) instead ot proposing name of Jyoti Basu, would have proposed a street dog for that title, it would have been a lot better. So help us GOD. Jai Hind


  • Sanskrit was imposed on the Hindu by whites but he still comes out with weird claims like ‘Sanskrit is an Indian language’.


  • :rolleyes:The title [medal] is year marked for Nehru-Gandhi dynasty and the BJP should not have put its foot in the mouth. We know and is true that in India true Indians are not respected at all. Less said is better. The whole country is corrupt and the title Bharat Ratna has ;lost all significance in the country. When Sachin is offered Sir by Great Britain we started opposing it because we claim to be Indians but look to Britishers who chose right person for their title. I have no scope to live India otherwise I would not have stayed for a moment to I love India much more than any one but the governance of the nation is too poor and support corrupt people. :rolleyes: